what's the next at the, the u.s. supreme court perhaps? >> oh, yes, most definitely the u.s. supreme court. this is big for minorities. a cause in front of the supreme court right now and there's a lot of speculation that affirmative action and race consideration in college admissions might be struck down, but here a lower federal court has said that constitutional amendment that was adopted in michigan saying you can't consider race in college admissions is unconstitutional, that it's in fact discriminatory, so this is a big win for people who favor race consideration in college admissions to create diverse student bodies. >> before michigan voters approved the ban the u.s. supreme court ruled in 2003 that michigan universities can use race as a factor in choosing which stunts to admit but can't make race the determination factor in accepting students, so does this give us, you think, any insight on a possible future ruling? >> it's -- it's interesting that, you know, this whole thing started in michigan back in 2003, and sandra day o'connor, who really was the swing vote on